tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1143156594353039090.post6783127239368448510..comments2013-09-21T23:07:12.888-05:00Comments on Thoughts on the Struggle: Doing RevolutionSetantahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07203926704262636983noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1143156594353039090.post-31668702966355916922009-11-14T23:46:46.196-06:002009-11-14T23:46:46.196-06:00I think Q is subjective, a creative energy that co...I think Q is subjective, a creative energy that comes from process but also from magic and luck. That is, it can be cultivated to some degree and discipline helps but in the end it is having courage enough to risk failure.<br /><br />I don't get much from Lenin. New capitalism requires new thinking.troutskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16020298501632120830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1143156594353039090.post-78668004177260791002009-11-02T15:11:21.281-06:002009-11-02T15:11:21.281-06:00hey dude,
I'd like to hear a lot more about Q...hey dude,<br /><br />I'd like to hear a lot more about Q. I love the diagrams though! I don;t know if this makes any sense, I'm just sort of riffing on your stuff.<br /><br />Marx lays out the basic formula of capital as M-C-M'. In expanded form it's M-C...P...C'-M'. The cycle repeats, M' becomes M again, and it repeats on an expanded basis. That's the important bit, that the result becomes the basis for a new cycle that's bigger than the cycle that produced the result. There may be setbacks here and there but it's key that this be the over all tendency. I think this applies to our work too. <br /><br />You describe Q as fitting the situation. That notion of adequacy is super interesting and I want to hear more on it from you. I'd like to play w/ this a bit too. It seems to me there's at least 3 constituencies that Q is relative to - members/currently involved people, recruits/people who one wants involved, and the target. so maybe we have Qm, Qr, Qt? kind of like Marx's Cmp, Clp?. I'm not sure about any of this but I think there's intensive and extensive qualities. To my mind a lot of so-called insurrectionary anarchism and other stuff I'm not keen on emphasizes Qm to the exclusion of much else and that the main push is intensive - insurrectionary anarchism is an ideology of intensification. I think there's a lot of use to emphasis - the action as training the memberships - but I think my/our general approach tries to emphasize extension as much as intensification. We want to move people through experiences to increase our numbers. Right? And maybe for now we're setting our sites low re: Qt because we hope that we can increase our N to a higher level? <br /><br />I dunno, I'm not good at thinking w/ these kinds of terms and formulas, but this is thought provoking stuff and I look forward to you expanding on it. <br /><br />On the concerns/musings about how to survive the headiness and so on, I hear you. I've never been anywhere near the level of this stuff, but in my experiences in workplace stuff when things have been on an upsurge (let alone when we're getting stomped all over) it can be quite dizzying and at least for me it was impossible to keep it together alone, I needed a team. The times I had one, stuff went better. When I didn't have one, I've often gone into reactive+instinctive mode a lot more instead of deliberate and planned mode. (I think w/ more experience our instincts can be trained to where we make better decisions even when not being deliberate, but I'm not at that level.)<br /><br />cheers,<br />NateNatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08918436253681803057noreply@blogger.com