tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1143156594353039090.post4029244537529325908..comments2013-09-21T23:07:12.888-05:00Comments on Thoughts on the Struggle: Historical Evolution and ResistancesSetantahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07203926704262636983noreply@blogger.comBlogger1125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1143156594353039090.post-66805925260614681552009-03-30T03:46:00.000-05:002009-03-30T03:46:00.000-05:00"Did Einstein need to live in a capitalist society..."Did Einstein need to live in a capitalist society to develop his theory of special relativity?"<BR/><BR/>I agree emphatically. Insofar as what you're saying challenges the traditional primitivist / anticiv argument that scientific understanding is inherently linked to the apocalyptic horrors of our real existing civilization.<BR/><BR/>But unfortunately, despite endless decade-long attempts on my part to model functional anarcho-communist alternatives, I strongly suspect that the actual platonic (that is to say mathematical) ideal of MARKETS of some form with lockean property and centralized currency WERE historically necessary to give rise to the advances in modern science and technology we treasure. At least, with any barest degree of efficiency.<BR/><BR/>Building a telescope or a vacuum chamber much less the chips to a wifi router are rather difficult tasks involving scarce, distributed resources. And market relations inarguably deal with scarcity and distribution FAR, FAR better than any form of communism.<BR/><BR/>So while we'd all like to get to a world of collaborative/competitive linux-esque mix of social relations, at the very least we're still looking at Market Anarchy as a transitive stage. And I have some dangerous suspicions regarding the necessity of information tech to even that.<BR/><BR/>It very likely MAY be that we simply cannot go from hunter-gatherers to post-scarcity pre-singularity kiddies with anything near the speed at which we did without a degree of social oppression. Oh well.Williamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00818379291904345272noreply@blogger.com